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Bryan Winchell's avatar

If Kid Rock's not gonna show up in this newsletter again, what are you gonna do about the 9/29/00 show in Las Vegas, man? Ha, ha ... just giving you a hard time. I still remember walking out of that show hearing how some phans were pissed that Phish allowed Kid to jam with them. To me, it was like, "Well, if they were gonna play with Kid Rock, I suppose a Friday night show in Las Vegas was the place for it..." and I was on my merry way.

Anyway, great article and thanks for answering a question I had just earlier this week---whatever happened to Steven Hyden? (That question was brought on by my iPhone playing the song "Yolk in the Fur" by Wild Pink who Steven introduced me to on one of his podcasts). Glad to know he's got a Substack and I may have to check out that podcast he did on Woodstock '99!

I think we Gen Xers haven't done as good of a job as our Boomer elders in spending some time reminiscing on our 1960s---the 1990s---because those were also world-changing times. Thanks for playing a role in doing that with these posts.

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HW Edwards's avatar

As a 13 year old attendee of Woodstock '99, there to see Metallica (my then-favorite band), Megadeth, Korn, Limp Bizkit, ICP, Rage Against the Machine, Sevendust -- but having my mind blown by the acts my Mom (yes, my mom brought me and my 12 year old sister to Woodstock '99) made me watch: James Brown (one of the most formative live music experiences of my life), Willie Nelson, Elvis Costello, Sheryl Crow, George Clinton -- and my cousin made me go see: Dave Matthews Band (at that point a mark of pride to be part of the gang in school that listened to metal versus the gang that listened to "Dave", but who were...really fucking good) + The Roots -- one of the striking things about all the documentaries and media that started to come out among the 25 year anniversary was that, besides the moment on Sunday that my Mom realized the vibes had SHIFTED and pulled us out of there early (before all the real rioting happened), it felt safe and fun and like an absolute blast. Yeah, I remember water starting to be like $10 a bottle on Sunday, insanely long lines at the ATM, and I remember us having to share food from our cooler with the college kids next to us on the campgrounds who were, even in my 13 year old eyes, woefully underprepared for the experience, and I definitely remember the crowds during Korn and Limp Bizkit in particular being the rowdiest I'd experienced then -- but after going to many metal/punk shows since then that have been WAY more intense and violent -- it feels like a very weird hindsight to look back at Woodstock '99 and portray it as just an absolute shitshow from soup to nuts, with a crowd of seething nu-metal fans just waiting for an excuse to start a riot. Was there undeniably awful shit that happened during Woodstock '99? Goddamn right. But it felt like 90% of the festival was fine, if poorly run logistically, and 10% nightmare, half of which was due to entitled white bros (in particular all the terrible sexual assaults from that weekend) but half of which was due to 200,000 people realizing that they were being absolutely taken advantage of by a conscienceless promoter with a Marie Antoinette complex gouged for all they were worth, and on the way out the door saying "you're lucky we couldn't build a guillotine from the plywood fence you kept us in for 3 days."

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