I don’t disagree with the overall thesis. I think Kimock ‘s approach in these post-dead bands was to channel Jerry. Remember that in 99 there was still a whole lot of mourning the loss of Garcia going on, a wound more fully healed by the time of the Fare thee well shows. In Kimock’s own groups, both at the time of the P&F shows and today, I don’t feel like he tries to play like Jerry at all. It’s contextual. Do you hear Jerry when Kimock is playing Tangled Hangers or Gregg’s Eggs with Zero? I sure don’t. Bottom line for me is that I don’t think it was necessary to besmirch Kimock’s virtuosity and contribution to improvisational popular music to make your point about the value of these two approaches to filling Jerry’s shoes.
This 36 From the Vault listener really dug this essay. I will say, I do appreciate old man Kimock, especially with Oteil and Friends, he adds some interesting stuff.
Leaving Substack would be silly. If you are trying to find a large platform with literally zero bad people on the internet then you'll be looking forever.
Love how a post the Grateful Dead really brings people out in the comments.
I've never heard this take on this run of shows...People usually really hype it up. But I actually kind of agree with it. And I imagine attending these was a blast and there are definitely some highlights, but can't imagine listen to a full show front to back unless I was on a REALLY long drive.
Love the general argument here but this UJB is where it breaks down at least in this show, Kimock is playing A New Africa and the band then melds the melody into UJB. Love that, a classic nuggs tape from the early 00s.
my view starting back then and to this day is that Trey learned to appreciate the use of microtones and fluid pitches from Kimock's raga-like playing during this run, eventually leading to the much-maligned "whale call" sound of 2010. I love that stuff, so a positive in my book.
Also, I'lldisagree on Kimock being merely a Jerry clone...
I don’t disagree with the overall thesis. I think Kimock ‘s approach in these post-dead bands was to channel Jerry. Remember that in 99 there was still a whole lot of mourning the loss of Garcia going on, a wound more fully healed by the time of the Fare thee well shows. In Kimock’s own groups, both at the time of the P&F shows and today, I don’t feel like he tries to play like Jerry at all. It’s contextual. Do you hear Jerry when Kimock is playing Tangled Hangers or Gregg’s Eggs with Zero? I sure don’t. Bottom line for me is that I don’t think it was necessary to besmirch Kimock’s virtuosity and contribution to improvisational popular music to make your point about the value of these two approaches to filling Jerry’s shoes.
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This 36 From the Vault listener really dug this essay. I will say, I do appreciate old man Kimock, especially with Oteil and Friends, he adds some interesting stuff.
Leaving Substack would be silly. If you are trying to find a large platform with literally zero bad people on the internet then you'll be looking forever.
Great write up, totally agreed with the Kimock no eye contact with Trey bit. I recall some chatter about this back in 99.
Also, I will be at Sphere and my buddy Jamil already said he is gonna try to say hey. Would love to meet up for a moment even.
Love how a post the Grateful Dead really brings people out in the comments.
I've never heard this take on this run of shows...People usually really hype it up. But I actually kind of agree with it. And I imagine attending these was a blast and there are definitely some highlights, but can't imagine listen to a full show front to back unless I was on a REALLY long drive.
Love the general argument here but this UJB is where it breaks down at least in this show, Kimock is playing A New Africa and the band then melds the melody into UJB. Love that, a classic nuggs tape from the early 00s.
my view starting back then and to this day is that Trey learned to appreciate the use of microtones and fluid pitches from Kimock's raga-like playing during this run, eventually leading to the much-maligned "whale call" sound of 2010. I love that stuff, so a positive in my book.
Also, I'lldisagree on Kimock being merely a Jerry clone...
I will not abide this Kimock slander