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David B's avatar

I think writing critically about Phish in the 90s is always going to get you into trouble and can explain the flatlined subscription numbers. A lot of fans just don't wanna hear it. And I get it because they were just *so damn good* in the 90s even when the shows were a little flat.

But yeah, I think you're maybe a little too easy on Big Red overall here — which is fair because it's really just conjecture. But was he getting a little high on his own rock star status as phish continued to explode? Yes. Was his family life kind of falling apart? Also yes. Were his bandmates kinda pissed he started another band and wanted them to play parts written by the members of his other band? Also likely yes. Was alcohol consumption among the 4 of them becoming less about the party and more about the habit? Also yes. Was a real love/hate relationship between the band and their traveling circus becoming more hate? I think possibly yes.

There's also just SO little humor on this tour compared to fall '98. Even that Memphis show, despite the epic 2001, the Mike's Groove feels kind of contrived and forced. And even the "surprises" this tour feel so much less phish-y. Playing one of the most cliche Zeppelin songs THREE times??

But yeah the simpler answer of tour exhaustion is also possible...'99 was their lightest touring year since '88...feels deliberate on their part that they wanted fewer shows/were sick of the road. And all the hot shows besides a brief pick-up around Memphis being at the beginning of the tour speaks to that.

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Owen Milbury's avatar

This is about the point in the band's history where my view seems like it's going to start diverging from yours. I know that the consistency wavers from '99-'04, and that there are sets that don't work and full shows that don't work. But the highs from this period rank among some of my favorite music ever produced by the band. I am more forgiving of some of the flaws that creep in because the peaks are so high.

You say there are "isolated moments that work in the fall," but those moments include the Chula Vista show and the Boise Bag and the Memphis show, and that feels like a lot more than isolated moments to me. It feels like a band figuring out their next direction in fits and starts, often in ways that are unsuccessful and more inconsistent than previous iterations, but when they do work, they are absolutely mind blowing. I'm more than OK with that.

Dec. '99 through July 4th of 2000 is one of my favorite periods in Phish history. I've always seen Fall '99 as a spotty tour that attempts to reach new heights, and succeeds in the best jams. The resulting run -- early December through the first part of summer 2000 -- pays this off big time.

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